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Fan-Demonium: No No. 1? No Worries Here
 
June 22, 2008 | Last Updated: 6/22/08 6:30 AM ET | Comments (34)
By: TOMMY LAWLOR


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Eagles fans have been borderline obsessed with the notion of a No. 1 wide receiver since about 2000. Charles Johnson was solid, but nothing special. Neither James Thrash nor Todd Pinkston developed into a top player. Freddie Mitchell …I think calling his career a disappointment would be fair. Donté Stallworth showed a lot of potential, but had limited production. Reggie Brown is still a mystery. Kevin Curtis looked very good in his first season as an Eagle. We'll talk more about him.

Terrell Owens is the only guy who flat out played like a star receiver in that time span. He was dominant in 2004. His play was much more up and down in the bizarre 2005 season. Unfortunately, T.O. went T.O. and that ended his time in Philly.

So exactly what is a No. 1 receiver? There is no definitive answer. There are several factors that I look at. Production is obviously a key. The guy also needs to be a playmaker. Certainly the receiver needs to be a very clutch player. He has to be very good on a consistent basis. It isn't just a case of someone being a star. Not every team has one. In my mind, a No. 1 receiver should be special.

Some of the guys around the league that I think do fit in the category are Owens, Plaxico Burress, Steve Smith, Marques Colston, Anquan Boldin, Larry Fitzgerald, Torry Holt, Randy Moss, Chad Johnson, Braylon Edwards, Hines Ward, Andre Johnson, Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne. I left off a few players who might surprise some people. I know some fans will think that Lee Evans, Roy Williams, T.J. Houshmandzadeh and Santana Moss belong on the list. I left them out because they come up short in some area. I do think each of them has a lot of talent and is just a notch below the first group. Young receivers like Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall and Dwayne Bowe each have the potential to make the list if they continue to play at a high level.

Let's go back to my criteria. We'll start with production. There isn't one specific category that is the key. You want a No. 1 receiver to catch plenty of passes. He doesn't necessarily need to have 90 or 100 receptions a year, but you can't have that guy bringing in only 40 to 50 passes. A good target number is 75.

Tommy Lawlor, goeagles99 on the Discussion Boards, is an amateur football scout and devoted Eagles fan. He's followed the team for almost 20 years. Tommy has been trained by an NFL scout in the art of scouting and player evaluation and runs www.scoutsnotebook.com.
The other two main stats are yards per reception and touchdowns. Those are part of production, but also show how much of a playmaker the guy is. A No. 1 receiver can't just move the chains. He needs to come up with big plays. He also has to catch touchdowns. About 14.0 is a good average for yards per catch. This stat can be complicated. The more passes you catch, the potential for your average to shrink increases. Even a stud receiver can't come up with big gains on every catch. The more passes a player brings in, the more likely he is to have an average down around 11 or 12 yards per catch. In 2006, Stallworth averaged more than 19 yards per catch. The problem is that he only caught 38 passes. That just isn't enough production.

As for scoring, ideally you'd like a guy to catch 10 or more touchdowns in a season. It doesn't matter whether the scores came on deep bombs, fade passes, or simple slants. A No. 1 receiver gets to the end zone on a regular basis. I can live with a guy only catching eight or nine touchdowns in some years, but lower than that becomes a concern unless there are extenuating circumstances.

Consistency is another factor. You want a receiver to put up good numbers year in and year out, week in and week out. You want him to make plays all year long, not just in a handful of games. Teams need to know they can count on a No. 1 receiver. Good games and big plays are not surprises. They are expected.

Earlier I mentioned a No. 1 receiver needing to be a clutch player. When it is 3rd down and it is late in the game, it shouldn't matter that a player is facing a great cornerback or that he's double-teamed or that the opponent knows the ball is coming his way. Big-time receivers come up big when it counts.

I also think a No. 1 receiver should be someone that opposing defenses fear. They should need to gameplan to try and contain the player. Some receivers might get the job done with speed. Some are very quick and elusive. Some guys are big and strong. It doesn't matter how they do it. You simply want the defense to be nervous anytime a throw goes that receiver's way. Is this going to be a big gainer? Is this a clutch catch that will move the chains? Is this going to be a touchdown?

Kevin Curtis recently talked about being a No. 1 receiver. I do not think he fits the above description. In his defense, he did put up good numbers despite getting very up and down quarterback play from Donovan McNabb and A.J. Feeley. I'm curious to see what Curtis can do in 2008 with McNabb hopefully staying healthy all year long and playing at a high level. I think Curtis could put up 80 catches, 1,100 yards, and 10 touchdowns. The biggest problem he had in 2007 was inconsistency. Curtis looked like a Hall of Fame player against the Lions. He was very quiet in some other games. I'm sure part of that is on the quarterbacks, but the best receivers overcome that and make the players around them better. We'll just have to wait and see what Curtis does in 2008.

I think a lot of fans underestimate how good Reggie Brown can be, but I'm not sure that he'll ever play like a true No. 1 receiver. Brown's biggest problem is also a lack of consistency.  There are times when he looks really good. He made a terrific adjustment on a deep ball from McNabb in the second Washington game and gave us a 45-yard touchdown. Brown caught a clutch third-down pass late in the Jets game that helped us to keep the ball and run out the clock. There are times when you see him play like a very good receiver. Unfortunately there are also too many drops. He also has gotten off to a very slow start the last couple of seasons. That has to change.

The ironic thing about all of this is that teams don't need a No. 1 receiver in order to play at a high level or win a Super Bowl. Since 2000 the Ravens, Buccaneers and Patriots have won titles without having elite receivers. Each team did have very good role players. They also had very good defenses. The Patriots are the most interesting team. They won three Super Bowls in four years with a good group of receivers, but no true stars. Deion Branch, David Givens, David Patten and Troy Brown made up a good receiving corps.

They functioned well as a unit and with Tom Brady throwing the passes. The top three all left for big contracts. Patten was a huge bust in Washington. Givens got hurt and did very little for the Titans. Branch cost the Seahawks a first-round pick and has delivered them only eight touchdowns in two years. I'm not sure that is what they were looking for.

With this foursome, the Patriots won three titles. They replaced this group with a much more talented bunch in Randy Moss, Wes Welker, Stallworth and Jabar Gaffney. The new guys helped the Patriots set several NFL records in 2007. Despite all the regular season success, that group came up short in the Super Bowl. The better set of receivers delivered the undefeated regular season, but no ring. The ""solid"" group of receivers helped make Tom Brady and Bill Belichick the legends they are today.

You don't need star receivers to win. You do need guys who know their roles and play up to their talent. The Eagles foursome of Brown, Curtis, Jason Avant and rookie DeSean Jackson has talent. Soon enough we'll find out just how good those guys are. A big year from the foursome will go a long way to the Eagles getting back to the postseason.

I know some fans still hold hope that the team will trade for a stud receiver. Don't count on it. Focus on the guys already here. With a potentially stifling defense and a running back combination of Brian Westbrook and Lorenzo Booker, I don't think that the Eagles will need great receiver play.

Irving Fryar was a top-flight receiver back in 1996 and 1997. Terrell Owens was great in 2004. The Eagles will land another No. 1 receiver. Trust me. If NASA can find water on Mars, the Eagles can find a stud receiver. Heck, maybe Curtis will have a huge year. Maybe DeSean Jackson will exceed expectations. Or maybe the Eagles will run the ball so much we'll all just forget about wide receivers. Just making sure you're paying attention with that last one.

Fan-Demonium: No No. 1? No Worries Here
   
Nuuuudlz
06/23/08
7:54 pm ET
UGH . . . now I remember why I was so harsh towards you. Brandon Jacobs is a playmaker? Compared to who? Randle El? Nice arm. Lousy reciever. And jason Campell isnt a weapon until he does have that great season. Romo isnt a legitimate weapon until he goes an entire season without throwing more than 2 picks in a game. Do I need to slow down?
Nuuuudlz
06/23/08
7:38 pm ET
lol to be fair . . . you did show some love to booker. So I may be a bit over the top. Now, explain to me why Boss is a threat, but Celek and Wilson arent? AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS WE CAN HAVE A PRODUCTIVE FULLBACK? REMEMBER THAT CECIL MARTIN GUY? 400 YARDS IN A SEASON! WE CAN HAVE AN OFFENSE WITHOUT YOUR #1 RECIEVER! WITHOUT WESTBROOK (see Greenbay game in 06, or the 100 yrd. game buck had against giants before reid ignored him). EVEN WITHOUT MCNABB (just ask Garcia). HEY . . . WHAT HAPPENS IF OUR DEFENSE MAKES OUR OFFENSE LOOK BETTER? DO WE STILL NEED BETTER RECIEVERS? IF ROMO THROWS 5 PICKS AGAINST OUR DEFENSE, DO WE NEED BETTER RECIEVERS?
Nuuuudlz
06/23/08
7:33 pm ET
eagles4never: Your putting Shockey over L.J.? Crayton over Brown? Glenn over Curtis? Wait a second . . . Glenn doesnt want to be a cowboy anymore. But you cant see that. Because your eyes are so damned red from crying over the recievers we dont have. Whaddya want . . . Harold Carmicheal? Mike Quick? Irving Fryars? We didnt win superbowls with any of them, genius. Look, I sympathize about the winning thing. Same feeling here. But I think your focusing on the wrong cog in the machine. If your REALLY WORRIED about winning and mcnabb's health . . . you'll quit eying Plaxico's drawstrings and look at our O-line. is our O-line gonna win in the trenches? If they do . . . Mcnabb stays healthy, Booker becomes the playmaker you think Felix is gonna be, the wide recievers get that extra second to get open, and L.J./Baskett doesnt have to waste so many plays blocking. If I'm insulting you, its because I have no sympathy for the egos of the simpleminded. There is no other way for me to look at it. Just like there is no position on this team in your eyes outside of wide reciever. Do me a favor . . . go read a book. Please.
spreadeagle
06/23/08
11:11 am ET
The past reference to a No. 1 wide receiver has been replaced and updated by "playmaker and clutch player". In the West Coast offense mismatches may involve two, three, four wide receivers, or two tight end or two running back sets for drop back, roll out, or pay-action passing. Let's view the pass offense using a wide-open lense.
modee
06/23/08
10:28 am ET
bentwing; you're talking about the Lions. You're absolutely right. The line played great that day and it was an outstanding offensive game. But;again that was the Lions. To compete with the best in the league;we have to be sound on both offensive and defense and be able to make plays on both sides of the ball. It will remain to be seen if the receivers the Eagles have on the roster will be able to make enough big plays to push this team into the playoffs.
bentwing
06/23/08
8:35 am ET
I'm a little tired of the #1 receiver talk. It is what it is. I did feel the need to chime in on one point though, football is the ultimate team sport. If you solid offensive line play you tend have solid QB play and the wideouts look good. The Detroit game is a perfect example of the OL keeping McNasty clean and giving him lanes to throw. T.O. didn't win us a Supe when he was here.
flyeagles
06/23/08
12:59 am ET
I wasn't worried until I read this article ...
eagles4ever1977
06/22/08
10:59 pm ET
You need to read the rest of the posts. Dont take me the wrong way, I am not saying the Eagles do not have talent, I am just saying the other teams in our division is loading up. The Eagles seem to be in ok shape, but after watching them for over 25 years, I have seen just about the same thing year after year, they are almost always in ok shape. About the post of teams with players, honesty hurts, and yes Felix the cat is unproven, and yes you need to read all of the posts, I said Jackson has the potential to become a good player, but I still believe we do not have the time to wait for players to develope, and become potential stars, Mcnabb's time is now....we need stars now...not 2s, and 3s. A PROVEN VET WR would help alot. The numbers of the other teams No.1s are not the only thing that matters, unless you are in a fantasy league, what matters is the players ability to make everyone else better, because they draw the defense to them, and that opens up every one else...makes the whole team better, and by the way I am not young,and I am certainly not a sage, and I never said anything about Toomer! Last point being...the Eagles most certainly could use some help at WR, anyone,...anyone who does not think so is not understanding this point, Mcnabb is the gear that turns the wheels, he has one great wheel in Westbrook, and a good wheel in Curtas, the other wheels are average at best. I just do not want to see the Eagles wast an opportunity, by trying to ride the talents of Mcnabb, and putting most of the pressure on him, instead of supporting him!!! I believe this team can win a Championship if every thing is clicking at the right time, it just helps to be clicking if you add the right parts.
JeromeBrown99
06/22/08
10:17 pm ET
This dude down there is still talkin bout Chad Johnson!!! lol
JeromeBrown99
06/22/08
10:15 pm ET
Also... LJ is 4th best? I think he IS the best. I'd take him over Witten. I'd take Shockey over Witten too if you don't add in the junk.
JeromeBrown99
06/22/08
10:13 pm ET
Toomer wouldn't even start for us.
JeromeBrown99
06/22/08
10:13 pm ET
eagles4never... EAGLES would go light years farther than Dallas or nyg with out #5 than they would without Rhomo or Eli. You think Brad Johnson would send cowboys to the SB? They wouldn't even have a chance to win a game. Same thing with nyg's 300 lb'er from Kentucky. If #36 OR #5 goes down it will hurt... but it ain't over. giants and cowboys would be DOOMED! === You think Pat Crayton or Randle El would start for us? Thats ridiculous.
brizer9@...
06/22/08
9:32 pm ET
I don't generally post on tommy boy's column,..but, because my boy JB et.al. are tryin to org their FF crap,I thought I'd take a peek here,..Cheez!!!..Ah,..eagles 4 never...u gots sum learnin' to do..For the sake of time...yur last post just needs so much work so allow me to offer this...try to be more balanced in your presentation...i've read some of yur posts and although there is generally some good stuff, by and large, yur not offering a fair view,..for instance you mentioned Felix jones for the cowboys, but not desean jackson of the eagles..ah..that simply sir,..is not a fair presentation. Just guessing here,..desean makes more plays than felix the cat...I can go on but will not,..noodles has much more credibility, my young sage.
eagles4ever1977
06/22/08
9:11 pm ET
Hey nuuuudlz lay off, I have noticed you several times also being insulting to some of the others. Now about what I said...we have Mcnabb, and Westbrook that are proven stars on this team, if one of them gets hurt, and they have, we have seen what happens. I am very happy they brought in Booker....I think he has a lot of potiential!!!....but we will see.. Now about the asnswer you asked for go back and read what you just wrote... just my point!!! and here are the teams with the names (you should not challeng me, I will even stay in our division....just to be fair!) Lets start with Dallas: QB Tony Romo, WR Terrell Owens, WR Patrick Crayton, WR Terry Glenn, TE Jason Witten, RB Marion Barber, and RB Felix Jones. Washington: Jason Cambell..I think he will have a great year, WR Santana Moss, WR Antwaan Rande EL, and TE Chris Coley. Giants: QB Eli Manning, WR Plaxico Burress, RB Brandon Jacobs, WR David Tyree..a.k.a the catch, TE Jeremy Shockey, and TE Kevin Boss. We mainly just have Mcnabb, and Westbrook...how far do you think we make it in the NFC East if they get hurt. We are depending too much on these two guys. I realy like Curtas, and Brown, But they do have trouble getting off of the line. L.J. is ok when he is healthy, but he is still the 4th best TE in our division, and any team from our division has a stud at WR, and their #2 would probally be a #1 for us...I am not hating on the Eagles...I am just a realist. I think if you were to ask Mcnabb (off the record) you would have to agree with me. The Eagles needs to try and get a PROVEN VET WR to help the whole team out. I just do not know if it will happen this year, I think by next year...most certainly...for Mcnabb's sake I just hope he does not get hurt this season trying to do too much.
Nuuuudlz
06/22/08
7:44 pm ET
lance - where did I insult you? I called you slow because you strike me as . . . slow. Otherwise you would be off the Chadwagon weeks ago. Your line of reasoning is very small minded and obnoxious. Small minded and obnoxious is very insulting to me.
Nuuuudlz
06/22/08
7:41 pm ET
Eagles4ever - your absolutely right. Mcnabb and Westbrook are our best weapons. Now . . . compare that to the rest of our division. Dallas? Their best weapons are Romo and T.O. Washington? Campbell and Cooley. N.Y.? Manning and Burress. With the exception of New England and maaaaaybe San Diego, I challenge you to find a team that is stacked with offensive weapons. Good luck. Mcnabb and Westbrook are our best weapons no matter who we add. What good is Randy Moss if he doesnt have a smart and strong quarterback? How many wide open looks is Fitz gonna get if Anquin and Edge go down? Most good teams have a playmaker quarterback and a dangerous reciever or running back or tight-end. Everyone else is a role player - good enough as a #2 or #3 option when the big weapon needs a little breathing room. We have 3 tight-ends who fill that role. Plus at least one running back and at least 2 recievers. How are we mediocre? Compared to who? Romo has his weapon in t.o. After that . . . a tight end and a running back. Campbell has Cooley and a stable full of unproven and unreliable catchers, along with an injury prone Clinton Portis. N.Y. has Burress. After him they have Smith and . . . Boss. I say Boss because Shockey has dropped his production alot. Brandon Jacobs hasnt played up to that 1st round pick yet, and Bradshaw isnt a proven threat. Eagles have the most depth in the division, maybe the most depth in the conference. Show me this mediocrity.
ogbeachbum471
06/22/08
7:18 pm ET
FFL Q&A time?
phillybirdz0928@...
06/22/08
6:49 pm ET
I believe we put too much on Westbrook we also need other weapons you know.
ogbeachbum471
06/22/08
5:42 pm ET
jb... keep me updated on the unga guy as the season progresses.. i really would like to know more.. thanks for the heads up..
lancegreenz@...
06/22/08
5:06 pm ET
Nuuuuldz...I find your personal insults to be completely unnecessary and rude. If there was a way to report you for being abusive...I would. You should not be allowed to post. Today's personal attack was not a bad as some of the others you have made in the past...but still childish and uncalled for. Just make your point without mentioning my name again. Peace.
eagles4ever1977
06/22/08
4:54 pm ET
Mcnabb and Westbrook, is our best weapons. I do not believe mediocrity will come out on top in the NFC East, and that is how the rest of the offence ranks, a bunch of 2s and 3s. I think Jackson has some potential as a WR, but Mcnabb is still our best chance to win the big one, and given his age, and the injuries adding up on him...the window is getting smaller, we do not have the time to wait for a WR or, the rest of the team to develope into potential stars, we need to try and bring a PROVEN VET WR, and give Mcnabb a target on 3rd downs, and in the redzone.
Nuuuudlz
06/22/08
4:14 pm ET
eagles4ever - We have a lot more than Mcnabb and L.J. this year. Brent Celek will get more opportunities after he came up so big last year. Kris Wilson will make the team and contribute from the tight-end and fullback position. Lawton is gonna get a couple looks (or Davis). I wouldnt be surprised if Marty pulled the Linebacker pass in the redzone once or twice. Mcnabb to O.G., anyone? As for recievers . . . gotta go with JB on the Matt Jones bandwagon. He's the favorite for odd man out at Jax.
Nuuuudlz
06/22/08
4:10 pm ET
D-jack will exceed expectations. The next Steve Smith, matched up against a slot corner, will make some big plays for us. Dallas has not found any big-play recievers outside of T.O. Didnt even draft one. Witten and Felix Jones are gonna be putting in alot of work.
Nuuuudlz
06/22/08
4:08 pm ET
Avant is best suited for the #5 slot. Good hands. Good routes. He'll replace G-lew on 3rd downs. That is the extent of his upside. Especially since he is an injury risk. The list of #1 recievers is a little too long.
Nuuuudlz
06/22/08
4:06 pm ET
Lancegreenz . . . you really should visit NFL.com. Read the article on Chad Johnson. He's not looking for a trade anymore. Their front office isnt looking for a trade. Its over. Seriously. Chad Johnson is off the market. He never really was on the market. But he wants to win, with the Bengals. Chad Johnson is not an option. Am I speaking slowly enough for you?



 

 
 
 
 
 
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